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Ep. 23 The Psalms as a Template for Grief and Resilience, with Mihee Kim-Kort
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Ep. 23 The Psalms as a Template for Grief and Resilience, with Mihee Kim-Kort

A Conversation on the Psalms as a Companion in Times of Joy and Sorrow

Today’s guest is Mihee Kim-Kort, a Presbyterian minister, speaker, writer, and as she calls herself “slinger of hopeful stories about faith and church.”

Mihee has been a public figure for some time now - her writing and commentary can be found in the New York Times, TIME Magazine, BBC World Service, USA Today, Huffington Post, Christian Century, On Being, and more (see her bio for the full list). In 2021 she was named one of the “21 Faith Leaders to watch.” By the Center for American Progress. She is co-pastor of First Presbyterian Church in Annapolis, Maryland and a doctoral candidate in Religious Studies at Indiana University.

In addition to all that impressiveness, Mihee is also a friend of mine, a colleague in ministry, someone who’s been a part of my life for a few decades. And although we don’t talk enough, when we do talk, it’s rich, it’s fun, and while we don’t shy away from going deep, we can’t resist bursting into giggles along the way.

Mihee and I had this conversation… I won’t say how long ago, when she was away on a writing retreat. We had both just gotten over Covid. I had to exit the conversation for 5 minutes with a coughing attack. Kids and dogs continually interrupted us. (Thank goodness for editing!) Yet somehow, in the course of this conversation, we recognize the importance of the Psalms as a companion in times of sorrow and joy, a container for what we find difficult to hold, and a template for the fullest possible expression of what it means to be human – as we process our grief and as we move into resilience.

In particular, I wanted to ask Mihee about a New York Times article she wrote in the aftermath of the Atlanta spa shootings in March 2021, in which 8 people were killed, 6 of whom were Asian women. In response to that terrible event, Mihee wrote an article that asks hard questions, that’s courageous and prophetic. I always wondered how she did that. It turns out that reading the Psalms was part of her story.

Find out more about Mihee Kim-Kort


Music featured on this podcast:

Come, Spirit, Come (Psalm 144)

I Lift My Eyes Up to the Hills (Psalm 121)

How Lovely (Psalm 84)

How Long (Psalm 13)


It’s been a while since I posted a long-form podcast, but now seems like the right time to begin this practice again. For me, this kind of deep listening and sacred conversation is a form of spiritual practice.

If you haven’t heard the catalog of longer podcasts on Psalms and resilience, they are worth a listen.

I’ve been lucky enough to have incredible conversations with a number of insightful friends and wise teachers, including Barbara Brown Taylor, Pádraig Ó Tuama, Munther Isaac, and Avivah Zornberg. These conversations have enriched my understanding of the Psalms, and how they lift our spirits especially in difficult times, and how they offer healing and hope.

Scroll back to the beginning of the Podcast Archive to find them.


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